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1979 Lancia Beta Zagato Spider

Mint condition Lancia Beta Zagato Spiders seem to be coming out of the woodwork as of late. We've featured a few here at CICFS this year, most recently this example owned by the President of Fiat Lancia Club's Arizona Chapter. Now comes along a red, two owner Zagato Spider that has been impossibly preserved, especially given these cars' propensity to rust away. For sale in Washington state, this could be one of the best examples of the breed left.

1979 Lancia Beta Zagato Spider

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1979 Lancia Beta Zagato Spider. 34K miles from new. Always garaged. No rust. This stunning Zagato Spider is likely the finest original example in the country. The second owner bought this car in 1980 when it was almost new. He was Capt. Richard Jacobs, who commanded the destroyer-tender U.S.S. Puget Sound, which for a time was the Flag Ship of the Sixth Fleet in the Mediterranean and later supported Operation Desert Storm in the first Gulf War. We spoke to his widow who expressed that they had many fun times together in the car when the Captain was home in Washington State on leave.

New water pump, new timing belt and tensioner bearing, new fuel pump, and completely rebuilt ZF power steering rack. New shifter bushing kit installed. Gas tank removed and fully cleaned with new NOS sending unit and fuel filter. Fully recommissioned air conditioning system that blows cold. Thousands in receipts. Optional power windows work quite well. Repainted to an excellent standard many years ago. Original soft top in very nice condition. Completely original inside and in absolutely lovely preserved condition throughout. These are the known defects: the oil pressure needle does not work but the zero-pressure warning light does as it has had a new sending unit installed. The power antenna does not work but can be operated manually. Very slight patina to the driver's seat that shows more in photos than it does in person...the new owner can dye it back to perfection if they so choose. Very slight paint rub-through on one of the contour lines of the hood that generally does not show up in photos...and that's it.

This is another stunning example of nearly perfectly preserved Northwest car. The Pacific Northwest is absolutely the very best place in the country to find wonderfully original classic cars, with cloudy skies and moderate tempertures that keep paint lustorous and interiors cool. This car is destined to cross the receiving ramp at Concorso Italiano someday soon. We just attended the Concorso, and we saw not a single Zagato Spider on the field...underscoring the rarity of these cars today. Little over 3000 examples were ever imported. Today, there are probably only a few hundred still in existence...and probably only a few dozen worth owning. We believe that this car is likely the finest original example left. Expensive. Good luck.

The Zagato Spider owned by the Fiat Lancia Club Chapter President brought $6,400 last month. That was a white car and had double the mileage. This shade of red might be more desirable to Italian car enthusiasts and considering the mileage, I'd wager that this car might bring another $2,000 to $3,000 or so. These weren't the best Lancias, but these Spiders have their charm and they are becoming more and more scarce as the years pass.

-Paul

1976 Lancia Scorpion

It appears that the 65,000 mile Lancia Scorpion we featured here at CICFS in June is back up for sale. Bought by the current owner for use in the Woodward Dream Cruise, it is being offered for sale once again with no reserve. Located outside of Detriot, this is quite possibly one of the best Scorpions left in the US.

1976 Lancia Scorpion

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This is an outstanding Lancia Scorpion (Montecarlo in Europe) with low original 65,555 miles on it (Receipts that come with the car prove the accuracy of miles). This Lancia is just beautiful in every way. I bought it from Tempe Arizona for the summer to drive around and for the Woodward Dream Cruise and now selling it before winter comes. This Lancia Scorpion is always garaged. Car never seen snow or salt and it looks like it was never driven on wet pavement either. Car needs nothing! Buy it, drive it immediately and show it off. It drives perfect. Pulls straight and strong. The 5 speed manual transmission shifts perfectly with no synchro issues. Clutch is like new. Brakes work as they should. Engine pulls strong. Alignment is straight. Cars exterior looks great. No rust. Paint shines beautifully. Tires have lots of tread on them. Interior, seats, carpet, dash are all in an amazing shape. Engine bay and front trunk are tidy and clean. Removable roof tucks away and works awesome. Under Carriage and floors are all in clean solid shape. No rust!

I spent a few thousands dollars getting it ready for the summer with new head gaskets and all fluids flushed and replaced. I have all the documents and receipts dating back to 1977 including the recent work I have done on it. Original owner kept the car until 2005 since new. It's been babied all its life. This car has countless laminated records/receipts and even has Original Factory window sticker that came with the car. Car has books, receipts, service manuals, brochures, miscellaneous parts, original tool bag with tools, spare and jack.

Radio, tape player, heater, fan blower, lights, signals, wipers and locks all work as they should. Car came with factory AC but missing compressor. Car has automatic choke to warm it up and it works beautifully. Car starts like a brand new one. No hesitation and no smoke. No accident history, car is solid, clean, straight, no visible rust and drives perfect. I will be surprised if you'll ever find a cleaner or better Scorpion in this original and unmodified shape.

There's a good amount of bidding interest in this Scorpion, and my guess is we'll probably wind up somewhere around the $10,000 to $12,000 mark by auction's end. Personally, these Scorpions, even in US trim, are much more appealing than their loosely related Bertone styled cousin, the Fiat X1/9. Pininfarina nailed it on this car, as those unfamiliar with this Lancia may take it for a 3/4th scale Ferrari. Little does anyone know just how accessible these mid-engined sports cars based on Beta mechanicals actually are.

-Paul

1979 Lancia Beta Zagato Spider

For an innovative company as Lancia, it was unfortunate that their short chapter in the US ended with the oft maligned Beta. This wasn't a terrible car, but it was the first Lancia to be developed under Fiat ownership and was designed down to a price, in comparison to earlier, better engineered Lancias. The Beta also got a bad rap from the alarming rate at which the car would succomb to rust, evening prompting a buyback campaign in the United Kingdom. In 1982, Lancia pulled out of the US market; their last car marketed being the Zagato Spider. While not a full convertible, the Zagato featured a roll hoop with targa roof panel and folding rear portion. Under 10,000 were produced, leaving this to be a rather uncommon Italian classic. This Zagato Spider for sale in Phoenix is being offered by the Arizona Chapter President of the Fiat Lancia Club.

1979 Lancia Beta Zagato

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Lancia Martini Racing themed livery in removable vinyl on four coats new paint (Aug 2010). Factory original type and color-sanded, buffed flat. Wheels refinished in silver metallic. Engine bay performance modifications include: 10-1 Pistons at .040 over, 40/80 Aquati cam, larger Weber 34mm DATR 2 barreled carb (brand new from box – not refurbished), lightened flywheel, 1” racing cam belt, 105 amp alternator, results similar to European spec yielding about 120HP vs original 90, 82 version 180 degree thermostat and lower fan temp switch, upgraded A/C on custom 4 row radiator, new compressor, much bigger condenser, new evaporator, 134a conversion, 3 electric fans (2 A/C and one engine).

Tightened suspension using all new “Beta Boys” bushes. New modern leather bucket seats. Much better for tall drivers over the originals. History: World wide production (1978-1982): 9390. Body styled by Pinninfarina, but built at Zagato factory. This is one of 2076 (828.BS1 FL) manufactured for the US market. Arizona car since new. 65,000 miles. Purchased new in Tucson, currently in Phoenix. Performance rebuild started in 2006 (at 50,000 miles). I have a highly complete and mostly “restored” Lancia Beta Zagato I have decided to pass on to a good home. These are very practical collectibles and I think a good investment.

As drivers and show cars they are more fun than most people realize. According to a book I have, there were only some 2700 of all variants of this model shipped to the US and not a great many more made worldwide. This example has a new paint job I would put up against any show car of the same model. The pictures do not do it justice, it really should be seen in person. There is over $12K of documented upgrades on the vehicle all since 2006. It went back and forth across the desert on a road rally and also to CA for Monterey car week so is well checked out.

Most recently I changed the radiator/ fan back to original from the modified ones using a brand new full copper core and did an AC a charge before summer. It has new tires and an impossibly rare new turn signal cluster. I have access to a set of the original seats separate sale if desired. I have driven 6 or seven of these and this is the tightest suspension of the lot. The engine is also the strongest in the lower registers. In fact the torque is so good it could really use longer legs in the gearing. Runs about 42 -4400 rpm at 75/80 and feels like it could go the same speed with less revs. This is an AZ car with no rust, that was a real problem with these. I have a 4” thick book of documentation from prior owners including original purchase in Arizona. Much more I could tell, but you just need to see it if that is at all possible. Don’t buy another one without considering this one strongly.

I also have two others including a parts car so I can give you +/- on other year variations and why this is the best if you call me to discuss. The car is just back from another 600 mile tour with other Lancias in northern AZ. So it is well checked out again, but it is 33 years old so there is always something left to do. Items I would mention to work on are a small header pipe exhaust leak, fixed once but a recent bump brought it back; electrical draw when cold, fine if you run it every few days but I keep it on a trickle charger anyway. It needs couple fixes on the interior including a new dash cover and a full hyde food treatment and other details I could mention but nothing serious.

That said, this is now only just 15K on a new engine rebuilt, total suspension and shock bushing upgrade, electrical, ac and cooling upgrades, etc, etc. You won’t find a better example to keep and use long term. I am an active member and current president on the AZ chapter of the Fiat Lancia Club. I have several collectible cars (to many now which is my reason for selling) but the Zagato is the one I take most in the summer and for distance trips. Also used for last minute car meets where I need something that looks good and I can start up right away. This car has been displayed on the Lawn at Concorso Italiano and numerous shows around phoenix gaining “best Lancia” at Belezzze di Italia last Feb.

This Zagato Spider is arguably one of the best Betas I've seen and the asking price of $6,400 seems reasonable considering the ownership history, description and work done to it. The Martini decal certainly isn't too overstated and adds a bit of interest to this car. Any classic Italian car purchase is a risk, but the owner of this Beta has taken out a lot of the guesswork.

-Paul

1984 Lancia Beta HPE

Lancia was never one to follow the crowd when it came to trends. Witness the Beta HPE, which initially stood for High Performance Estate. Two door estate vehicles have never been particularly popular, but Lancia felt the urge to offer a two door Beta with the Berlina’s floorplan to create a long, two door shooting brake. It wasn’t a particularly rare car, with over 71,000 produced, but few worldwide survive to this day. This particular HPE is a very late model example for sale in Germany is a VX, or Volumex variant. This model featured the 2.0 liter twin cam engine with a Rootes type supercharger producing 133 horsepower.

1984 Lancia Beta HPE

The engine is partially revised, superseded the shift linkage. New parts: steering gear, battery, front brake pads, brake hoses, high performance silicone ignition, 40 Weber carburetors, Bilsten shock absorbers, Ansa dual exhaust, lowering kit (30mm) from Hörmann. Aluminum radiator and thermostat and manifold. The HPE is beautiful, fast, hard and loud. Four winter tires on original alloy wheels are available, a further seven hole Lancia alloy wheels are included. It is a non-smoking vehicle. No winters.

With just over 60,000 miles, we’re looking at about $1,000 per 10,000 miles here with this car. Any Beta over $5,000 is a gamble, as they are not terribly favored in the eye of the collector and there is little room for appreciation in the future. The rarity of the HPE/Volumex combination makes this a more desirable Beta than most, but for interested parties in the US, shipping and importation costs come into play. This certainly seems as good as any HPE you’ll find these days and hopefully someone snaps it up that will look after it so future generations of car enthusiasts can have a window into a period of time where Lancia dared to be different.

-Paul

1976 Lancia Beta 1800 Coupe

Even though they were one of the few Lancias to be sold new in the United States, examples of the Lancia Beta, whether it is the coupe, sedan, shooting brake HPE or open roofed Spider, are few and far between. Rust was the Beta’s nemesis and sank the company’s reputation shortly after the car’s introduction. This problem was one of the main reasons you see so few on the road today. When they were new, these were priced above a Datsun 280Z and a little bit below a BMW 320i, so this was a car that appealed to Lancia fans or those who sought something outside of the mainstream. This 1978 Beta Coupe has beaten the odds and as the seller describes, could be the very finest example you could purchase on these shores.

1976 Lancia Beta 1800 Coupe

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1976 Lancia Beta Coupe. The color is the rare Marrone Parioli with Tan leather. 26K miles from new. One family owner. No rust of any kind, ever. This car was stored for about 15 years before mechanical recommissioning began about 18 months ago. Since then, $11,400 has been spent to ensure that this the finest original Beta Coupe available anywhere.

It was in the summer of 1975, at age 11, that I began to notice advertisements in my parents New Yorker magazine for a new import car: the Lancia. Billed as "The Intelligent Alternative", the Lancia Beta came in four body styles. I'm sure I asked my parents to buy one, but my father was dedicated to Peugeots and just wasn't interested. The '76 through '78 Series 1 cars are the ones to have today, as by 1979 slow sales forced Lancia to degrade the interiors with cheap vinyl and an ugly steering wheel and dash. Little over 3000 of these S1 Beta Coupes were ever delivered in the U.S. Today almost all are in wrecking yards. A stunning, original car like this is almost unheard of.

Completely outfitted with every option: they include power steering ($333), power windows ($218), air conditioning ($589), and a sunroof ($290). These options would have raised the already expensive P.O.E. list price from $7750 to an eye-poping $9180 for a 1976 automobile.

New battery, fuel lines, fuel filters, timing belt, water pump, crank seals, cam seals, thermostat, timing belt tensioner, accessory belts, front brake rotors, front brake pads, grease seals, brake hoses, shifter bushings, clutch, pressure plate, release bearing, spark plug wires, radiator fan switch, and wipers. Reconditioned rear struts. Fuel tank removed and cleaned. Reconditioned power steering rack. Head machined with new head gasket. Valves ground. Oil pan gasket replaced. New Dunlop tires. Distributor serviced. Air conditioning fully serviced and converted to R134 refrigerant...blows cold. Very rare power window switches found and installed. NOS tachometer installed (last one in the world?). Countless hours spent on the internet to find some or the rarest reconditioned and NOS parts to complete the car. EVERYTHING WORKS...even the clock. Original interior in very fine condition...no dash cracks. New Coco floor mats. The old paint has buffed out very nicely. Wheels repainted. You will likely never find another original-condition Beta Coupe like this. This car is destined to cross the receiving ramp at Concorso Italiano in the near future. The question is: will you be driving it?

Back in 2007, I was pleased to see Jeremy Clarkson drive a 1981 Lancia Beta Coupe across Botswana in Top Gear’s Africa Challenge. While the car was a constant nuisance in terms of reliability, it made the trek (albeit barely). Some may deride the Beta for being too much of a Fiat rehash, but for a design from the mid-1970s, it looks surprisingly fresh, if you don’t take into account the oversized bumpers. Values are very hard to place on Betas, since few exist and even fewer come up for sale on a regular basis. With about a week left and the reserve not yet met, I’ll be curious to see if this car sells. Considering its condition, I’d wager to guess $6,000 to $7,000 would be reasonable for such a rare piece.

-Paul

1981 Lancia Beta Zagato

The Lancia Beta was the first new car that Lancia developed after Fiat took control of the company in 1969. Introduced in 1972, this model would go on to set record sales for Lancia, but also garner a reputation for being a rust prone vehicle. This reputation would taint the company so badly that Lancia would pull out of its largest export market at the time, the United Kingdom, a little over ten years later. One of the last new Lancias to be sold in the US market is the car you see here, the Beta Zagato. Built on the Coupe's chassis with a targa roof, it was an interesting collaboration in that the car was designed by Pininfarina but built by Zagato. In total, a little over 9,000 of these open roofed Betas were built before Lancia ceased US sales.

1981 Lancia Beta Zagato

1981 Lancia Beta Zagato, 3rd owner. Approximately 27K miles on rebuilt engine. New starter, clutch, exhaust. 5K miles on timing belt, shocks, motor mounts. Recently rebuilt steering rack. Seats reupholstered in cloth, Pirelli P-6000 185/65-14 tires. Many interior/exterior trim pieces replaced. Car runs well. Paint good, new top. Professionally maintained. Many spare parts. California car. Never driven in rain, always garaged. Shop manuals, original owners manual, original tool kit. All work receipts. $3500 or best offer, price negotiable.

At $3,500, this is possibly one of the cheapest points of entry into classic Italian car ownership, without having to dump a ghastly amount of money on a full restoration. Few of these Zagatos survive today and the ones that do are often rusted out and on their last legs mechanically. While not the fastest cars out there, these Betas are known for their good handling and if this car has lasted this long without suffering at the hands of the tin worm, it should be able to survive another 30 years with proper maintenance.

-Paul

1977 Lancia Scorpion

The Beta was an unfortunate footnote in the history of Lancia. It is forever known as one of the most rust prone vehicles in history. The Beta was also the first Lancia to be launched under Fiat ownership and spawned one of the more interesting cars from the 1970s, the mid-engined Scorpion, or, Montecarlo, as it was known outside of the US market. This car served as the basis for the Group B 037 rally car and was also raced in the FIA World Championship for Makers, winning the title in 1980 and 1981. This particular Scorpion is one of the few that made it stateside and while not original, has been kept up rather well and wears a striking combination of pastel blue over red.

1977 Lancia Scorpion

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The Lancia Scorpion was not only raved about in its overall performance and handling, but was a tribute to racing on the track with the mid engine italian design and high output 4cylinder engines. We would rate this Lancia Scorpion as a driver with investment potential based on the mechanical restoration that recently took place and the rarity of the vehicle. The blue repaint is in good condition but does show signs of overspray and runs in hard to see areas. The tires are in good condition as are the rims and wheel wells. The trim and badging are in good condition and the weather stripping looks ok. The cloth top and windows are in good condition.

The red interior is in decent shape. The seats, dash and carpet have been recently repainted and look good. The dash is free of cracks or bubbling and gauges seem to be in good working condition. The 1.8 liter 4cyl motor is in good condition and doesn’t smoke or knock when started. The 5 speed transmission shifts well and the clutch feels like it has plenty of life left. The brakes and suspension handle the sports car very well making it a blast to drive. Don’t miss out on this rare low production vehicle. There are few in existence and even fewer in this condition.

The auction is no reserve and if I had to guess, this car will probably sell anywhere in the $4,000 to $5,000 range. A car like this is certainly a conversation piece and will make others think you are driving a much more expensive exotic, given the relative obscurity of the marque here in the US.

-Paul

1981 Lancia Beta Coupe

Here is an affordable little coupe that you don't see very often -- because most of them are long gone! It appears to be a one owner car that has lived in the Pacific Northwest it's entire life having been originally purchased in Seattle -- no rust issues here!

Check out this well preserved :

1981 Lancia Beta Coupe For Sale

After Fiat acquired Lancia, they needed a more modern replacement for the Fulvia and the Beta is the result. Fitted with parts from the Fiat parts bin, this car was very modern for it's time with all independent suspension, 5 speed transmission, dual overhead cams, and wait for it -- front wheel drive! This would explain the spaciousness of the interior in such a small package. This car also has some very nice touches like functioning air conditioning, pop-out quarter windows, tilt steering wheel, and four wheel disc brakes.

Currently the auction is at $4000 and it appears to be no reserve! With only 3 days remaining, get your bid in now!

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