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1971 Fiat 850 Special

The 500 “Cinquecento” set in motion a roadmap for small cars from Fiat for the next several decades. From the 500, a larger 600 model was developed with a rear mounted four cylinder engine. The 600 begat the car you see here, the 850. Launched in 1964, it was available in a number of variants, including a coupe, roadster, station wagon and the two door sedan like we see here. This 850 is for sale in California, having recently been imported from the Netherlands, seemingly a hotbed for classic cars. The seller had issues registering the car in California, so is seeking to offload the vehicle to someone out of state, given that jurisdiction’s tough emissions laws.

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Year: 1971
Model: 850 Special
Engine: 843cc inline-4
Transmission: 4-speed manual
Mileage: 20,882 mi
Price: No reserve auction

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If you require the best for your collection, this award winning 1971 FIAT 850 Special may be for you. Only a handful have come to this country. I am selling this car only because California DMV will not register it. It came from the Netherlands last July (2013). Went through customs, no problem. USEPA exempt. I thought I registered it in California because the DMV issued me license plates but after 10 months California said no to the registration because of emissions. They have not tested the car and only looked at it at the DMV to check the VIN number. Due to the fact that I cannot register this car in California, it is being marketed to out of state buyers.

This FIAT won BEST FIAT at the French-Italian car show last November (2013) in Van Nuys, California out of over 50 FIATs. This a 4 cylinder, 843cc (51.9ci) 52hp water cooled engine with an 4 speed ALL syncro transmission. Disc brakes on front wheels. The speedometer is a little SLOW. Tires are Very Good. Very low original miles for a 43 year old car. Less than 21,000 miles. Beautiful colors. Yellow with brown seats and door panels. The paint is beautiful as is the interior. Very clean and comfortable. Always garaged, cared for and maintained to the highest standards. The engine is strong, tight and pulls very good and not a bit tired. The complete undercarriage, floors and trunk are all factory original metal and in excellent condition. Runs and drives strong on the road. I live near sea level and have gone over 8500 feet in the mountains and on the freeway in 110 degree heat, no problems. It will cruise at 75 MPH, no problems. The longest trip I have taken is 400 miles, still no problems. Condition is 9.9 out of 10. Extraordinary car.

2 Minuses: The temperature gauge does not work. I replaced the sensor, still not working. Turn signal lever does not return after left turn.

The new owner can enjoy this car from day one. VIN 100GB1618153

Thank you for your interest. Any questions please call Paul at (760) 360-7573 between 9am-9pm PDT

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The 850 was one of those in between models for Fiat. Not quite as popular as the original Cinquecento or the front-wheel drive 124 that followed it, but it went on to be licensed by a number of other companies, including SEAT. These 850s are uncommon on these shores and given the level of originality with this one, it will surely command a premium amongst aficianados. With the reserve off, we'll see where this one goes...

-Paul

1970 Fiat 850 Spider

It might be the middle of winter for us East Coasters out there, but if you're thinking about a convertible for the summer, this is the time to buy. If you want a lot of fun on a budget, the Fiat 850 is a great choice for those seeking al fresco motoring. Based on rear-engined, Fiat 850 mechanicals, the 850 Spider had styling by Bertone that set it apart from its larger 124 Spider sibling. This 850 Spider for sale in New York is an original car except for the new convertible top that was recently installed.

1970 Fiat 850 Spider

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They are Only Origianl Once! 1970 Fiat 850 Spider Bertone Edition Convertible. Imported by Fiat Roosevelt Motors Inc. Sold New by Fiat Free World of Manhattan

Two owners, garage kept
63,269 original miles,
Original paint, original interior
Original window sticker, original owner manual
4 cyl, 4-speed transmission
Everything works, never in an accident
Normal expectations of original paint with nicks scratches
Fun to drive
New top installed
Two new window regulators already installed
Doors sag, door latches need adjustment
Air cleaner repainted
Lower front both fenders metal breaks
New Interstate battery
Paint is believed to be original as I see no over spray anywhere
Small minor dent passenger rear quarter

Look at the pictures carefully, for a northeast Fiat it is solid. There are areas in the floor sheet metal with rust on either side see the pictures. Really NOT TOO BAD for a Fiat of this year and it is in original condition. This sporty two-seater Fiat was designed and built by Bertone, the same Italian company that has built cars for Alfa Romeo, Ferrari, Fiat, Lamborghini, Mercedes Benz, and many more!

For an 850 Spider out of New York, this has survived remarkably well. I really like the fact that this looks like an honest car, rust showing where you'd suspect, but not being too out of control. The asking price for this car isn't way over the top, but if you could have the seller knock about $1,000 off, it would be a good deal for summer motoring on the cheap.

-Paul

1970 Fiat 850 Spider

Since we're talking about cheap motoring thrills this weekend at CICFS, how about this Fiat 850 Spider? Overshadowed by its larger sibling, the 124 Spider and eclipsed in popularity by the Alfa Romeo 105/115 Spider, the 850 does have its merits. Based on the Fiat 850 which was itself an evolution of the Fiat 600, the 850 Spider offers a unique driving experience with its rear engine layout and diminutive size. This car for sale in Oregon is good quality driver that you wouldn't be afraid to use and enjoy on a regular basis.

1970 Fiat 850 Spider

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Very nice car. Purchased in San Diego in 2005, trailered to Portland OR. Driven daily for the first couple of years, but lately its been driven only in the summer and garaged all winter. Newly-plated Abarth header and muffler give it a nice throaty sound. Factory hardtop was taken down to metal and painted. A new hew headliner was installed at a local upholstery shop. New dashboard installed and dash rewired, but within a month it developed two cracks (pictured). Very reliable daily driver. New tires and battery, rebuilt carburetor, new master cylinder. Handles nicely. Maintained in Portland by a local shop whose owner used to race vintage Fiats.

Miscellaneous maintenance and improvements made over the last few years. Two spots of rust on the body, each about two inches in diameter. I had the trunk lid taken down to metal, a rust spot removed, then repainted. But it came back within a year. There is also a small bubble of paint at the bottom of the passenger door (pictured). Also, each seat has a two-inch separation of a seam (pictured). Entire bottom edge of car has undercoating treatment. Selling because I have too many vehicles and am self-funding a new business.

Fiat 850 Spiders in good nick will average between $5,000 and $10,000, so at $5,000, this is not a bad deal for what you are getting. While it has some flaws, they are mainly cosmetic and nothing that would be too difficult or expensive to fix. I've never paid much attention to these rear engined runabouts, but I think it's about time that enthusiasts wake up to just how much Italian fun a little bit of money can buy them.

-Paul

1971 Fiat 850 Spider

Fiat has had a history of taking rather ordinary cars and turning them into something extraordinary. Take for instance the Fiat 130 Coupe based on their demure 130 executive sedan to the classic Barchetta roadster based on lowly Punto mechanicals. The Bertone styled 850 Spider is another great example of taking a pedestrian car and turning it into something more special. You don’t see too many of these rear engine runabouts on the road these days, as the larger 124 Spider garnered more of the open roofed Fiat market share and was sold for a longer period of time. A lot of these that still exist are rust buckets, but this 850 is in amazing shape, having been in a collection for many years. It is for sale by the same seller as the 1976 Polski Fiat 125p pickup we featured on Monday.

1971 Fiat 850 Spider

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1971 Fiat 850 Sport Spider, 1300 original miles; An unrestored museum piece. We didn’t believe it either, until we saw it, walked around it, touched and examined it top to bottom, inside and out. This is a breathtaking example of what careful upkeep and storage in optimal conditions can yield. Easily the absolute finest 850 Spider we have seen since they were available new in showrooms. If it were possible to build-up a new 850 Spider out of NOS parts, from the X-frame up, the results would look pretty much like this – It’s that good:

Original Paint; Original Chrome and Brightwork; Original Top; Original Upholstery; Original Dash Pad with no cracks; Original Rubber Mats; Original Windshield, Wipers and Blades; Original Pirelli tires, tubes and valve-stem caps, (probably with some original Turinese air still in them!)

Original Headlamps, Bulbs, Fuses, Wiring, Hardware, Clips, Most Hoses, and a hundred other details that are often lost on these fragile little cars.

The engine fires-up up immediately and runs as-new. We have put about 150 miles on the car (still using break-in speeds until the odo cracked 1200 miles). The steering is light and precise, as new. Roadholding is very fine, even on the original tires, shocks and springs. Brakes are as-new, with a light but firm pedal. By any sane definition, this car is rust-free. The X-frame, floors, sills, all crevices and pockets underneath, all suspension mounting points, valance panels, trunk floor, and even the battery box are all clean and rust-free, with the original undercoating intact wherever it was applied. Unbelievably, hardware and fixtures underneath the car are shiny and clean. Bushings and rubber parts are excellent and pliable. The engine splash pans are still in position.

Throughout this car, we found small details left over from the production line that are lost forever when a car is restored: Rivet studs, ends of rubber plugs and trimming, a bit of masking tape never removed from one of the top bows, small smears of paint on the wiring harness and hoses (where they were installed before the paint dried). It’s amazing. Realizing we are acting as temporary custodians to history, we have done our best to not disturb any of this original flotsam and jetsam. We performed only minimal detailing to the car: A gentle wash, Zymol Concours wax on the paint, Simichrome on the brightwork, Windex on the glass – That’s it. This Fiat is a Preservation Class dream, and will be welcomed at any Concours for Macchina Italiano just as it is. If the next owner wants to clean the crevices with Q-Tips and sweat some finer details, it will be ready for Pebble Beach.

What’s the Story Here? This car came from the estate of the original owner, a collector whose taste runs more along the lines of Cadillacs and T-Birds. He enjoys extremely low-mileage originals, and his cars are displayed on jack stands in a temperature and humidity controlled building – Completely away from the sun's damaging UV rays, and free from freeze/thaw/bake cycles that can age rubber and vinyl even on cars that are not driven. He received the Fiat brand new in 1971 as part of business deal, and he gave it to his wife. They drove it only very sparingly, perhaps once around the lake every summer and in annual parades in town. The car never left their small Minnesota city until this summer. It has been kept clean, dry and properly stored after each use.

It remains in stunning original condition. The driver’s side door was repainted back in the seventies, and is an excellent match in color, but a trained eye will notice some minor cracking (invisible in photos). The only non-original parts we could detect are the muffler (replaced with a genuine factory part), the windshield washer bag (which we replaced with a new OEM one, as the original became loose and was roasted on the exhaust), and the filters.

The paint has very few flaws, nicks or marks (even on the nose), and only two tiny touch-ups that we could find. We could find no evidence of crash repair. The windshield is perfect, with no scratches, road-rash, cracks, chips or hazing. The top has a beautifully clear window, excellent stitching, and no tears or holes. It’s mounted on perfect top bows. It goes up and down easily and snaps closed like new. The seats and upholstery look like new: flawless, with perfect stitching and no tears, fading or damage. The Dash board is exellent, with a perfect pad that (amazingly) has no splits. The fake wood paneling on the dash is intact, unmarked and unfaded, but the passenger side above the glove has some cracks (where the headreast hits it when the seat folds forward). Finding original Fiat replacements for this Formica-like paneling is impossible, so we elected to leave it in place rather than to replace it with a non-matching substitute. It's really unusual to find an 850 Spider that still has this original piece installed above this glove box. The rubber floor mats are clean, undamaged and still pliable. Ditto for the trunk mat and securing strap for the folded top (both rare items in any condition).

Gauges and controls all work, with the exception of the oil pressure gauge. We are working on this, and will endeavor to repair it for the next owner. We swapped the sender unit, but this didn’t help. The low pressure warning lamp works, and we will put our attention on the gauge itself. The wipers wipe, the blower motor blows (on two speeds), and the horn is loud ‘n proud.

For a car that was in production for several years looking basically the same, there were several important changes throughout the life of the 850 Sport Spider. 1971 was one of the better vintages for this model. It had the largest engine available, 903cc, which has more torque than the 843cc or (especially) the 817cc models. 71s also had a really sweet looking alloy sump which peeks out from beneath the back of the car (a very cool item that screams "Abarth!").

I honestly don't think I've ever come across a Fiat 850 Spider that has ever looked this good. The mint green color is very similar to the Evergreen color that BMW offered on their Z3 roadster in the late 1990s. While not to everyone's taste, I think it's refreshignly different and not too offensive on such a small vehicle. A 850 Spider that is driveable and sorted cosmetically will typically run you between $6,000 and $10,000. This particular car has started out at $11,000, so I'd assume the sellers are looking for somewhere around $15,000 or so. As nice as this car is, I doubt one could expect to get much more out of it than that. The other issue here is mileage. I could wager a guess that whoever buys this 850 Spider won't be using it as intended, as it is too nice to employ on a regular basis. That's a shame, as this would be a fun runable for the summer months.

-Paul

1974 Fiat 850 Carrozzeria Coriasco Truck

Here's something you don't see every day: a Fiat pickup truck. While rear engined trucks like the Volkswagen Transporter and Chevrolet Corvair Rampside are nothing new, these Fiat 850 trucks are much more rare on US shores. Built by Carrozzeria Coriasco, a coachbuilder who focused mainly on commercial applications, this 850 truck apes the VW Transporter in that it has a shallow bed and fold down side panels, uncovering storage area underneath the bed which isn't taken up by the engine. This example for sale in Arizona has had a nice cosmetic and mechanical freshening and is ready for light hauling.

1974 Fiat 850 Coriasco Truck

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1974 Fiat 850 Carrozzeria Coriasco Truck. Fresh 903 cc high compression engine. John Edwards special intake with new Empi carb. P.B.S Engineering header with turbo muffler. New base clear coat paint. New Brakes. Tires like new. Polished headlight rings with Carrello headlights. Front bumper triple plated. Original Carrozzeria Coriasco floor mats. Truck runs and drives excellent. This is perhaps the ONLY Carrozzeria Coriasco Truck in the U.S. Clear Arizona title. Reserve the right to end auction early.

This truck would be great for a small business owner looking to attract some attention or could be employed as the perfect chase vehicle for your cadre of Abarth classics. Something this rare is almost always impossible to put a value on, but if I had to take a stab, I'd say $15,000 to $20,000 would probably be a good estimate. This truck is just so quirky you can't help but love it. I mean, who would even think to put a spare tire right in the middle of the passenger compartment?

-Paul

1972 Fiat 850 Spider

My father was one of the first people in the US to place an order for a 2002 MINI Cooper. When we went to order the car, there were no new vehicles on the lot or in the showroom, but a few vintage Minis hanging about. A similar trend has taken shape at Fiat dealers across the country. While the Nuova 500 is readily available in the showroom, every now and then you'll see a vintage Fiat for sale on the lot to draw some customers into the showroom and highlight a bit of the manufacturer's history. Following on to the Fiat 850 Bertone Coupe we featured last week, here is an 850 Spider for sale in Oklahoma City.

1972 Fiat 850 Spider

Beautiful Italian styling combined with timeless functionality, efficient design and the thrill of a classic automobile – these are the attributes that made the 1972 FIAT 850 a timeless icon. If you are in search of an iconic Italian classic, this FIAT 850 showcases just that. Come see this classic piece of Italian historic luxury.

For about $4,000, you would be hard pressed to find a cheaper way into an Italian vehicle without it instantly bankrupting you. The convertible top on this 850 Spider looks a bit ill-fitting and a few trim items could use some freshening up, but overall, this car looks to be a nice survivor that falls short of show quality but could be instantly enjoyed.

-Paul

1971 Fiat 850 Sport Bertone Coupe

Introduced in 1964, the Fiat 850 came in many flavors. From a roadster to a small van, there was a model for nearly every taste and lifestyle. One of the more interesting models was the Bertone Coupe. Related to the 850 Spider, the factory entered these coupes into competition in the 1969 Rallye Monte Carlo. Its rear mounted four cylinder engine was just under 1.0 liter in capacity and produced 52 horsepower in stock form. This 850 Coupe for sale in California is in original condition and is quite complete; always important when dealing with a rare beast such as this.

1971 Fiat 850 Sport Bertone Coupe

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Short history of the Fiat 850 Sport Bertone Racer and Carrozzeria Bertone:

A very limited edition of this model have ever been built and just a few are known to survive after 40 years. This is your chance to own a piece of automobile history designed by Carrozzeria Bertone. Similar Bertone Racer Coupes were raced in the Monte Carlo Rally. Giuseppe Bertone, called "Nuccio", (July 4, 1914, Turin, Piedmont – February 26, 1997, Turin) was a famed automobile designer and constructor. He took over Carrozzeria Bertone from his father, Giovanni after World War II, growing the small business to a car building and designing powerhouse.

About this Fiat 850 Sport Bertone Racer:

Runs great, shifts great and is a pleasure to drive. California car, solid body with 75,000 original miles. Newer tires. Custom polished intake manifold with 32/30 Weber carburetor for more horsepower and torque. The original carburetor is also available. Custom made exhaust with a sporty note to take advantage of the bigger carburetor. Original exhaust is also available. Straight body (some small scratches and dents but nothing major).

One seat has a tear on the seam on the bottom and the other one on the back. A must see and drive in order to appreciate. Many new used parts are also available (at extra cost) including, new water pump, piston rings, gasket set, engine, transmission, distributors, new OEM exhaust, racing headers (I have been told they are Abarth but not sure), etc.

Last year, a similar 1969 850 Bertone Coupe came up for sale on eBay priced at $15,000. It was in a little bit nicer shape than this example. Prices are ranging from around $10,000 and under for rough runners to about $15,000 to $20,000 for the best examples. This car may hit $12,000 at the high end. It's not the most exotic of Italian cars, but it is rare to find a car with racing pedigree and Bertone design in this price bracket.

-Paul